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Thursday, April 23, 2015

Kids & Money Management - 2

Saw another video, teaching kids about scams -- titled "Cost of Popularity"

hopefully this will help some kids in understanding what are "scams" .... and upon recognition of scams, to avoid it.  

thinking of how to structure my conversation with K on this......

Wednesday, April 22, 2015

How much will my child require for Tertiary Education?

There is a calculator available on the OCBC website which gives a gauge of how much one will need for tertiary education in X years time.  I find it useful as they differentiate between local and overseas, general and medical degree, and different countries.

i remember when K was born and i was working the numbers, i had to use my excel worksheet to do my workings and work out the numbers!   if i had such a calculator then, it would have saved some time! Haha.

Honestly, i dislike such calculators! whenever i see the numbers, i feel like fainting :p  like those retirement calculators ..... the target amounts are always so unattainable! haha! Ok ok, this calculator is not that scary! those retirement planning calculator is far scarier!! LOL.

but i think it gives a very good gauge of the financial commitment required and helps me to validate whether we are on track :) and personally, i think for the local general degree cost estimation, i would increase the amount by another 20%-30%.

Currently, after keying in the parameters into the calculator on the OCBC website, it shows that K will need approximately S$51K  for a general degree course (tuition and living costs included).

For a "sanity" check, i did a quick check on google on the current cost of a business administration degree (guess that is considered a general degree??). 

For SMU (Singapore Management University), a 4-year business degree course will set one back S$44,800 (tuition fees alone) See link

For NUS (National University of Singapore), a general business degree will cost S$31,500 (tuition fees only) per this link.

So in about 11 years time, when K is of university-going age, assuming an inflation rate of between 3%-5% per annum, fees could easily be 30-50% higher than now.

So that's why i say for planning purpose, better to set aside  another 20%-30% more to the OCBC figure.  and have in mind that that will only suffice for tuition fees.  better to set aside a separate amount for living costs.

And that is only for local universities!! If one is looking to go abroad, the numbers will naturally be greater. 

And that is why i marvel at those with a few kids .... what a financial commitment catering to the children's education! it's no wonder that in most families, both have to work! Otherwise how to find the moolahs?? o but of course, i am not talking about the well-to-do families here ;)  happy for those who have already set aside sums for their kids education and do not have to worry about it! :)

Us?  well, we have set aside a sum enough for local tertiary ..... if she wants to go  overseas to study -- she will have to find the means herself ..... :D  that's what i say now! let's see how things go in 10 years time!!

Saturday, April 18, 2015

Teaching Children About Money

Read this article on The Wall Street Journal, thought i'd share it here.

The Smart Way to Teach Children About Money

Many Parents and Schools Take Exactly the Wrong Approach, Research Suggests

A new study suggests that children need to learn more math, not finance, to be better with money. Harvard Business School's Shawn Cole discusses with WSJ's Tanya Rivero. Photo: Getty
It’s time to rethink how we teach children about money.
For all the effort parents put into helping their children understand dollars and cents, and for all the effort schools put into formal lessons in personal finance, most children still grow up into adults who can’t properly save, spend and budget.
Now researchers—from psychologists to economists to communications experts—have started asking why. And the one theme that comes out of their research loud and clear is that we’re doing it all wrong.

We focus on teaching finance in school when regular math is much more effective at helping children manage money. We cram their heads full of financial facts and strategies years before they’ll actually need any of it—ensuring that they won’t remember the lessons when they’re most needed. And we squirm about discussing our own family income and debt, giving children fears and false impressions they may never shake off.
Here are some of the biggest findings from the research—and advice from educators and researchers—about how we can do better.
Focus on Teaching Math—Not Money
Perhaps the most startling finding is that classroom education in finance often doesn’t translate into real-world results.
For decades, studies have extolled the benefits of financial education, pointing out that students who take finance classes score well on tests of financial knowledge—and higher financial literacy leads to better financial behavior.
Conclusions like these have led to a growing consensus that schools should teach children about managing their finances, with 43 states now mandating some kind of training.
Shawn Cole found this troubling. Not because the studies aren’t true: Many, he says, do show a correlation between financial education and good financial behavior. But few studies demonstrated a strong causal link.
So, the professor of finance at Harvard Business School wondered, if widespread financial education were really effective, why are so many young people struggling with debt, foreclosure and low asset accumulation? He and a group of researchers set out to find an answer. They looked at the states that mandated personal-finance curriculums in high school, and compared the financial health of students who graduated before the mandates to those who graduated after. Their hypothesis: If personal-finance education worked, the students who graduated after the programs were implemented would be better off financially.

They weren’t. After controlling for state, age, race, time and sex, and analyzing a huge pool of historical financial data, the group found that there was no statistically significant difference between people who graduated within a 15-year span either before or after the personal-finance programs were implemented. Graduates’ asset accumulation and credit management were the same, with or without mandated financial education.
“I teach finance for a living, so I want to believe that financial education works,” says Mr. Cole. “But, really, across every data set we looked at, across every population segment, we just couldn’t find any effect of financial education on behavior.”
Why? Many studies that show a correlation between financial literacy and real-world financial success try to control for other factors that might influence behavior, but it is very hard to make causal inferences from correlational data, says Mr. Cole. For instance, the income bracket of parents may have a big effect on children’s performance on financial-knowledge tests, much more so than a class they take.
 But the study, issued last year and currently under revision for publication, did find one school subject that does have an impact on students’ financial outcomes: math. Students required by states to take additional math courses practiced better credit management than other students, had a greater percentage of investment income as part of their total income, reported $3,000 higher home equity and were better able to avoid both home foreclosure and credit-card delinquency.

“A lot of decisions in finance are just easier if you’re more comfortable with numbers and making numeric comparisons,” says Mr. Cole.

Without strong math skills, he says, people tend to use more emotional ways to invest, spend or save their money. What’s more, people with less math experience make worse financial mistakes with issues like compounding or underestimating how quickly interest accumulates.

He says the math courses don’t need to be complicated, but should teach about concepts that come up a lot with money, such as exponential growth, which come in handy when thinking about compounding.

A parent of two, Mr. Cole says he will be making sure his children take as much math as they can. He recommends other parents do the same.

Tell the Whole Story, Warts and All

There’s a consensus that financial education should begin at home. But the way many parents cover the topic at the kitchen table needs a serious upgrade. “Even now, parents talk more about sex with their children than they do about money,” says Lynsey Romo, an assistant professor of communication at North Carolina State University who studies family information sharing.

In a 2014 study of 136 children aged 8 to 17, she found that while children reported their parents shared information on general topics like saving, spending and earning, children said their parents tended to stay mum on sensitive topics like the family’s specific income and family debt.  

Often, parents fear causing their children anxiety or think talking about money is impolite. The problem is, keeping these secrets often caused more anxiety than telling the truth.  Children with wealthy parents, for instance, sometimes assumed their parents didn’t talk about how much money they made because they were poor—but the real reason was that the parents didn’t want the children to brag.

And the negative effects of that childhood anxiety can last into adulthood. In other research, Ms. Romo found that subjects who report limited communication with their parents about money later in life feel “clueless,” as if they don’t truly understand how credit cards or money management works. Instead of concealing sensitive topics, Ms. Romo recommends using financial discussions, no matter how sensitive, as “teachable moments.”

Trips to the store are good moments to have these conversations, says Anita Vangelisti, a professor of communication at the University of Texas at Austin. Parents might explain why buying one item makes more sense from an economic perspective than another, comparing quality, price, benefits and the family’s general budget.

Don’t Make Money Scary
A group of Polish researchers came to similar conclusions about why people should speak frankly about money. Children, the researchers say, are quick to pick up on the symbolic value of money—all of the emotions it can stir and the associations it carries—even if they don’t understand how cash works. If parents don’t speak frankly about money, the researchers say, those associations pile up and lead children to act selfishly in the short term, and in the long term leave them with illusions about the power of money.

In their study, published in the Journal of Economic Psychology, the academics found that children who were focusing on money acted much more selfishly toward their peers. The researchers randomly divided 120 children aged between five and six into four groups. One group counted coins, one counted notes and the others various other objects. After doing so, the children were asked to help pick purple crayons out of a box of mixed-color crayons. The children who counted coins and notes were less willing to help with the task than those that had counted paper and buttons.

So, parents must be careful to avoid giving money too much psychological weight, says Tomasz Zaleskiewicz, one of the study’s authors, a psychology professor at the University of Social Sciences and Humanities in Wroclaw, Poland. The best way to do that is to speak about money in a rational way.

Over time, children who don’t get straight answers tend to think about money in purely symbolic terms, giving it more emotional weight than it deserves, he says. They may end up looking at the world through costs and benefits, rather than social rules of reciprocity. This can limit the ability to develop close relationships that would help people cope with problems in a way money cannot.

Further, if children continuously come to associate money with power, they might begin to see it as a solution to many problems, he says. They might come to see it as a way to cope with fears, attract new friends or increase their well being.

Teach Them ‘Just in Time’

Another mistake parents make with financial education is trying to get it done in one go. They enroll children in summer camps or one-semester classes that aim to cover everything from running lemonade stands to applying for a mortgage.

The problem with this approach is that financial knowledge decays over time, says John Lynch, director of the Center for Research on Consumer Financial Decision Making at the University of Colorado, Boulder.

In a meta-analysis of over 200 studies that was published in Management Science last year, Mr. Lynch and two other professors found how swiftly the effects of one-time financial instruction wear off. About half of the studies were about the effects of financial education’s impacts on behavior. Their analysis found that the impact of one hour of financial instruction wore off after about five months. Eighteen hours wore off after around 17 months. And 24 hours disappeared after about 20 months.

“So, if you expect that a course taught to children will stick with them into adulthood, you are fooling yourself unless you do something very different from what has been studied so far,” says Mr. Lynch.

The professor believes his findings lend support to an increasingly popular strategy among financial educators and policy makers called “just in time” education. Instead of teaching all elements of personal finance at once, “just in time” education gives consumers the knowledge they need just as they are about to engage in a transaction. So, instead of giving information about car loans to students in a textbook, consumers would get the information as they started shopping for cars.

Parents can adopt this technique, too.

“Let’s say you want to teach your child about budgeting, and you know that every year, Aunt Ethel writes your child a $50 check for Christmas,” says Mr. Lynch. “The moment to talk about budgeting is just before that happens. If you have that conversation a few months before or a few months after, it’s not going to have an effect.” 

Mr. Wells is a news editor for The Wall Street Journal in New York. He can be reached at

Friday, April 17, 2015

Kids & Money Management

Saving these for future reference.

Had already shown them to Kaira, but i think she will probably need to see these videos again ;)

A story about saving

A story about borrowing

A story about earning

A story about spending wisely

Thursday, April 09, 2015

Recap : Primary 1 in Singapore

Realised that I don't have many posts about Kaira's primary 1 year and the various interesting encounters and/or challenges that came along our way throughout Primary 1.

But i did do one thing which I think will be a great memento for her when she grows up and that is to develop a photobook for her Primary 1 year! Thankful that her teachers do send us photos regularly of what's happening in class and also because I volunteer for certain school activities I managed to capture some wonderful memories of her and her primary 1 classmates. Flipping through the photobook when i first received it (some time end of last year) brings back wonderful memories! I hope she will treasure it when she is older :) definitely worth the time and effort!

I am grateful that the mums of her classmates are a terrific bunch! Always ready to share information, insights and extend help whenever required.  thankful!

for me going into primary school, my foremost concern for kaira was how she will adapt socially and whether she will have relational/interpersonal issues since she is going from a small group environment (max 10 kids in her kindergarten class) to a big class of 30. next would be issues such as time management, money management, how to get her out of bed in the morning  etc

i honestly wasn't too bothered about the school work -- i figure she should be able to cope. but i needed to deal with issues such as "independence (or lack of),  "being responsible", "overconfidence", "unwillingness to put in effort and hard work" ..... endless list.

maybe because she is an only child.  i am always worried that she is being "mollycoddled" by her parents -_-   so from young, i try to mindful and am quick to examine my ways .... such that i sometimes think i come on down too hard on her sometimes. poor gal. o well, i guess when one is sensitive to certain issues or cognitive of the possible negative consequences, there is a tendency to over-compensate.  but i think i have kind of found a "middle ground" :)

let's start with some areas that i think i have yet to overcome it with her ..... then maybe if some one has any feedback/views, will be kind enough to share via comments :)

(1) unwillingness to put in effort and hardwork ..... when it comes to academic work

i am actually quite relax when it comes to academic achievements for K.  i don't expect her to score full marks for tests. i don't send her for academic enrichment lessons except for Chinese.  i don't give her alot of work to do at home --- depending on whether she has homework to do, if she has, i will limit it to one subject a couple of pages.  if no homework, then maybe 2 pages each for 2 subjects.  usually takes no more than 30 minutes if she is cooperative.  but she usually whines and complains and gets distracted that she takes a long time just to finish up 2 pages of worksheet.

actually i only started this "consistent work" idea with her from the 2nd half of primary 1.  the first half of primary 1 she practically did nothing after school except play (that i shall elaborate more later on ....).  so initally she didn't like it at all.  she couldn't understand why she needs to do more work at home since she was already learning and doing in school??

my rationale is this ..........better to put in consistent effort daily (even if its 30 minutes a day) so that there is no need for revision or whatever....even if there are tests coming up.  and by putting in consistent work, i can identify the areas she is weak in and help her to strengthen these areas.  and it all started when i realised that she was having some trouble with the maths problem sums.

i think while she does get the idea now..... she is still quite resistant.  many a time she will tell me that schoolwork is very easy.  Tests are also very easy and that she doesn't need to study and she will be "fine".

well, i can explain and explain until the cows come home and if she doesn't buy the idea, what can i do?

so i started with "not caring" about her spelling tests (both english and chinese). You know, I had the tendency to nag her to learn the spelling words and test her before the actual test.  let's just say she finds that a chore and me a nag!! so sometimes i purposely don't remind her that she has spelling tests to see if she will be responsible enough to learn them herself.

Sad to say no.  and a few times she came back with borderline results -- and that's when i quickly share with her what a difference  when "some effort" is made to revise the words for the tests.   and it kind of worked.  she is not that resistant when i ask her to learn and practice stuff.  Until....... occasions when she didn't study and still get full marks (or almost full marks!) ..... she will then fall into her "see, i no need to study also will be fine" attitude!! Aaaargh.  Buay tahan (i.e. cannot stand it).  Overconfidence!!  Misplaced confidence!!

I am still figuring out how to motivate her to willingly put in the effort.  i have tried dangling rewards -- and while she is excited about the idea -- it doesn't really translate into effort put into doing work.  in fact, she then gets really upset that she can't have the reward because she didn't achieve the goals we agreed upon -_-  Terrible.....

so i have not found the solution to this and i hope i will have the epiphany moment soon.... cos i think she will need more effort moving into P3 .... unlike now .... i have to admit, she will probably still do fairly OK with minimal effort ..... let's see .... i have slightly more than half a year to go!


I shall continue in the next blog post ......

Wednesday, April 08, 2015

Adventure Cove Waterpark, Sentosa Singapore

We brought Kaira to the adventure cove waterpark during the one week March holidays (yes yes, i know, i am quite tardy in updating my blog these days....heehee).  Went with another family and we had great fun.  Water play is always fun i think! 

Anyway, Kaira enjoyed it tremendously and i think it's likely that we will be visiting it another time soon :)

Here's my review on tripadvisor if you are interested. and since it was a wet wet day .... no photos !! we didn't have waterproofed phones ;)

o, money saving tip : try buying the tickets from travel agents or online, cheaper!! We saved like 40% doing so. just need to do surf for deals ;)